I think there is a lot to learn from the spiral staircase.
Some things to think about:
"The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do: for what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise. For the Father loveth the Son, and sheweth him all things that himself doeth." (John 5:19-20)
I cannot exclude the atonement from that. I'm sorry, I just can't.
"As man is, God once was; as God is, man may become."
Lorenzo Snow
I believe that is truth. (See also Lectures on Faith 7:12-16)
Who is Satan? If he "fell" where did he fall from?
D&C says he was "an angel of God who was in authority in the presence of God" He was a "son of the morning" and then, "he is fallen!" And "the heavens wept over him." (76:25-27)
Tell me, how would a person become an angel in authority? And what does a "son of the morning" even mean?
"The expression “morning star, son of the dawn” (hêlēl ben-šāḥar) denotes a category of “sons of God” who attained exalted status before the creation of the earth (Job 38:4–7)." Avraham Giliadi
Is there some way to obtain an exalted status without actually living?
How did God *know* that Christ would remain true, and perform the atonement? That is a lot to stake on one man. Had he proven Himself before? So that Father knew?
Does Christ know our sufferings firsthand? From experience?
If someone can answer these questions for me, without using the idea of multiple mortal probations, or re-mortalizations (whatever you want to call it) I'd love to hear it! (Btw, I don't think it's the same this as reincarnation-generally understood. "Comeing back" as a plant, human, or animal to pay for your past sins or mistakes).
It's about eternal progression.
"And I, John, saw that he received not of the fulness at the first, but received grace for grace; And he received not of the fulness at first, but continued from grace to grace, until he received a fulness;
And thus he was called the Son of God, because he received not of the fulness at the first." (D&C 93:12-14)
Spirals are different from circles, because yes, you're starting over again after going around, but have you not also ascended?
What does One Eternal Round actually mean? Isn't Eternal also a name for God? (Moses 7:35)
Should we not judge others? Because we just may not know everything that's going on in their (entire) lives.. Or ours? Or who or what we are?
Did someone like 14 year old Joseph Smith get to that level of faith by living in mortality for 14 short years?
Who are the Noble and Great ones? Why are they Noble and Great PRIOR to coming to earth?) They must have proven themselves somehow.
I think there is more here to be uncovered and understood. Joseph Smith expounded on this in the King Follett Sermon.
Hmmmmmm....
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